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pledge to work for grover norquist. >> som highlights from senator scott brown debate in massachusetts tonight. he did not pull out his magic scott brown whiteness like he did in previous debates but there's always time left for that. tomorrow night, of course, is the vp debate between paul ryan and joe biden. it was the highest vice presidential history last time around. our coverage of the vp match starts tomorrow at 8:00 p.m. eastern. cannot wait. we'll see it there. in the meantime, it's time for "the last word with lawrence o'donnell." >> team romney's biggest problem is back and that problem, the one that just won't go away is mitt romney. >> tax, education, reproductive rights. >> you want to know my position on issues, ask me and i'll tell.
>> you when you're mitt romney, what's wrong with a little change of heart. >> romney's flipped again. >> it's what he said about abortion. >> a woman's right to chose. >> a new romney promise. >> new policies, new statements, and new beliefs. >> no new abortion laws. >> here's what he told the des moines register yesterday. >> i didn't say that would become part of my agenda. >> here is moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i've missed you. >> basically calling him a liar. >> lied about what? he's been saying this all long. >> my presidency will will be a pro life presidency. >> do i believe supreme court should overturn roe v. wade? >> i will preserve and protect a woman's right to choose. >> what is going on with the romney message? >> a lot of people are confused. >> if you want to know my position on issues, ask me and
i'll tell you. >> i'm going to ask you a question. >> ask me and i'll tell you. >> are you a wizard? >> there are 27 days until the election. >> just 27 days. >> 27 days from the election. >> when you're mitt romney, what's wrong with a little change of heart? >> look, it's a trolly. it's on the way to the neighborhood of make-believe. it's where me and paul ryan get most of our facts from. >> with just 27 days until election day, today president obama ceased on mitt romney's attempt to run away from the extreme position on abortion that romney took to win the crazy republican presidential primary. team romney was forced to spend today talking about their candidates abortion stance after mitt romney said this yesterday to the des moines register. >> there's no legislation with regards to abortion that i'm
familiar with that would become part of my agenda. >> president obama responded tonight in an interview on abc news. >> this is another example of governor romney hiding pogs he's been campaigning on for a year and a half. >> is it a lie? >> governor romney has made very clear that if a bill comes to his desk that overturns roe versus wade, that he would be fully supportive of that. he said, i will appoint justices that will overturn roe versus wade and now four weeks before an election he is trying to cloud the question when it comes to women's rights to control their own health care decisions. >> the president then said why it matters that mitt romney is now running away from the mitt romney from the republican primaries. >> the one thing that i think people -- republicans as well as democrats can say -- is that
there has been consistency with me from the time that i started running for president to today. and there will be consist extent see all the way through the next four years of my presidency. people will know where i stand, what i believe, what i'm fighting for. and that's part of leadership. >> mitt romney's attempted softening on abortion yesterday forced mitt romney to today reassure republicans that he was still the severely conservative anti-abortion mitt romney that they nominated for president. >> i think i've said time and again, i'm a pro life candidate and i'll be a pro life president. >> that comes after his spokesperson andrea sal said governor romney would of course, of course, support legislation aimed at greater protections for life. last night in las vegas, president bill clinton gave his
take on the revised mitt romney. >> i thought, wow, here's old moderate mitt. where you been, boy? i've missed you all these last few years. but i was paying attention in the last few years. and it was like one of these bain capital deals, you know, where he's the closer and he shows up and doesn't really know much about the deal and says, tell me what i'm supposed to say to close. the problem with this deal is, the deal was made by severe conservative mitt. that was how he described himself until three or four days before the debate, this ship is sinking faster than a titanic. but people are still frustrated about the economy, they want it fixed yesterday so just show up with a sunny face and say, i
didn't say all that stuff i said the last two years. i don't have that tax plan i had for the last two years. you going to believe me or your lying eyes here? come on. >> the national gallup tracking poll of likely voters shows the presidential race even now at 48%. and tonight nate silver's forecasted that obama will win 294 electoral college votes and mitt romney will win 245. and president obama has a 68% chance of winning the election. it seems like 24 hours ago when we first heard mitt romney say that line yesterday, there's no legislation with regards to abortion that i am familiar with that would become part of my agenda. so many questions in there. you mean you're not familiar with it? and then here's his spokesperson today saying absolutely, he will
sign -- as we said last night -- he will sign any legislation that a republican congress hands him on this. >> yeah. i think we've just discovered, lawrence, how long the leash around mitt romney extends. and just where it snaps and where it -- where that is is with social conservatives. it was funny because andrea saul, his spokesperson, contradicted two things within a matter of an hour. they drag him back in and make him pay homage. >> abc interviewed talking about what mitt romney tries to hide. >> governor romney went to a lot of trouble trying to hide what his positions are because he knows that those ideas have been rejected. they won't work. and if he's making an honest presentation of what he's proposed, he will lose, because the american people are not going to go back there.
>> ari, it seems like the president is warming up for his second debate where it's becoming predictable that he is going to go after mitt romney in the way he did in that comment. >> yeah. when you're on deck, you swing two bat to get warm and when you come back the ball is the second bat and romney is going to have to swing hard. we know that. this is so important because it's a fundamental issue. it's an issue of morality for many people and it's an issue that shows you where you stand. we don't have the time to go through all of the positions but this is important enough to -- >> take some time to go through some of the issues. >> i've lost track of how many there are. >> mitt romney's biggest enemy is youtube and that's his problem. all of these that i'm reading are on youtube. i support roe v. wade. 2005, i'm pro life.
>> that covers an eight-year period of consistency. >> yes. >> 2005, i'm pro life but will maintain the pro life choice quo. 2007, i want to extend fourth amendment protections. equal protection to the unborn child. 2008, i want to return abortion to the states, a position that he repeated in 2012 and then later said i realize the record has bb settled for some time in the courts and now this slight of hand which obama calls clouding and what i will call lying about the issues that are so predominant in the republican congress, which is, they want to pass laws that try to restrict this wherever they can and go up against roe v. wade and planned parenthood. that's a big one and mitt romney doesn't have two positions, three positions, i would say there's at least five position here and it's not trustworthy. >> let's listen to what michelle obama said today about health care. >> today, believe me, as a
father he knows what it means to have our daughters have the same freedoms and opportunities as our sons and that is why he will always, always fight to ensure that women, that we and women make our own decisions about our bodies and our health care. that's what my husband stands for. >> joy, this will involve guesswork ultimately, but what is your sense of what it means in terms of political communication for the president to be the father of daughters when talking about women's issues and mitt romney quite famously not having any daughters. >> i think that's actually a really important point and mitt romney in a lot of ways does not echo the experience that a lot of americans have had on a lot of issues. he doesn't really understand want. so the 47% comment just rolls off of his tongue. he doesn't really understand unemployment or not being able to find a job. so saying i like being able to fire people just sort of comes naturally and he doesn't really see what is wrong with it until
he's pointed out to him and because he has sons, maybe it's a faith issue, i don't know what it is but he doesn't seem to have a terrible amount of empathy for this issue and a lot of issues. i thought mitt romney is a salesman. he could turn to you, lawrence, and say, i am completely opposed to abortion and turn to you, ari, and say, i am completely for it. that's what scares me about him. within himself he doesn't feel that there's something wrong with doing that. i think it's empathy and that he's just a businessman getting what he needs. >> bill clinton did a great job of capturing that salesman component of the romney personality. >> yeah. what bill clinton said, that's fine if you want to make money. we understand when you buy a car you get someone who does a lot of puffery and say, this is great and you kind of factor that in. you don't want that in a president. >> joy reid and ari melber, thank you both for joining me tonight. coming up, who would dare,
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coersion and access to reproductive health care or on the basis of our reproductive decision. here are some of the other people who have joined meryl streep and have signed on to protect reproductive rights. >> have you seen this? >> what is it? >> this lawmaker in georgia is calling women farm animals. >> you've got to be kidding me. >> no. and this guy? >> yeah. >> somehow i don't think it's going to be a problem for him. >> but it's a problem for everybody else. >> did you sign this bill of reproductive rights thing here? >> yeah. >> okay. good. let me do it. >> you just hit the little draw the line there. >> okay. now what? >> they know what to do.
>> uh-huh. uh-huh. uh-huh. >> farm animals? is that a joke? is that a joke? no. no. no. no, no, no. >> that's a bit much. >> force vaginal what? >> joining me now for an exclusive interview, one of the stars of the "draw the line" campaign ad actress martha and irin carmon from salon.com. martha, how did you get involved in the project? >> well, helping them with advocacy and raising awareness and we knew that they were starting this big campaign for the bill of reproductive rights and we wanted to help them out. we made a few calls and got some
people involved. >> irin carmon, given what we've seen romney go through in the last 24 hours on abortion wavering, i guess we can call it, what seems to have brought the issue into the campaign. it was left behind and certainly never appeared in the first presidential debate. >> we can't underscore how important this election is in terms of women reproduction rights. we're talking about a very crucial seat on the supreme court. we're talking about the faith of women abroad. we're talking about the future of safeguarding access to reproductive care, including birth control. it's great that mitt romney put his foot in his mouth. >> the anti-abortion movement took a little bit of a hit today with congressman scott of tennessee, he's running for election. he's a very strong anti-abortion guy and we now have an audiotape of him trying to pressure his
mistress into getting an abortion and he says -- and she says -- he says, you told me you'd have an abortion and now we're getting too far along without one. the woman says, yeah, but, you know, and you told me that you would go with me and everything and he says, well, i said if i could. scott, how shocked are you, a congressman who is anti-abortion was trying to arrange one for a woman not his wife? >> listen, i'm actually not shocked at all. the reality is that one in three women in america will have or has had at some point in her life an abortion. it's a very common procedure that most women or many women will go through in her life. the reality is that this just underscores that is a totally private decision that a woman makes on her own with the help
of her partner and her doctor or her family and this behavior is not wild. it's not crazy. it's not out there. and it's certainly not immoral. it's certainly part of every woman's life at some point. i think the point of all of this is to make people understand that the shame and the isolation that go along with this conversation have no place in what is essentially a perfectly legitimate constitutionally protected medical procedure. >> i think martha makes a great point about the stigma and how that drives these discussions underground. one more thing that i would add is this is hypocrisy and it's certainly not pro choice to engage in reproductive coersion but what is happening here is a complete lack of respect for a woman's right to make her own decision and i think that's really what ties this all together, not seeing women as autonomous beings, including
whether to be pregnant or not. >> let's look at the north carolina state senate race. >> i'm deb butler and i think we need to have a candid conversation about what tom goolsbee means to north carolina's women. medically unnecessary invasive proceed thaur is now required by state law. he promised you us that his first priority would be jobs but instead he's following you into the doctor's office. i'm deb butler and i paid for th this ad. >> martha, she was holding up a trans vaginal probe and it's an awful lot bigger and stranger than what i expected it to be but it's a very effective device in that ad. >> well, the reality is that
this is used fairly commonly in gynecological procedures but it's always done with a woman's consent and this is the issue here. when you force women to undergo an unnecessary procedure without their consent, it is completely wrong. i mean, it's a violation of their physical determination, their right to wholeness and their right to make their own decisions. i mean, the reality is, whatever side of the political spectrum you are on, when you are imposing your beliefs, your value system on to others, on to their bodies, you are essentially saying that the government has a right to intrude on the most fundamental part of their lives, which is their own physical persons this isn't something that we would dare -- >> martha? >> yeah. >> you look like you're sitting in your backyard but the light is suspiciously unnatural there. i have a feeling you might be on the set of your show. >> well, we've just finished
shooting and this was the quickest and easiest for me to get to you, lawrence. so, yeah, i'm here. we just finished work. >> direct from the set of "raising hope." martha, thanks for joining me. ichlt rin carmon, thank you for joining me. coming up, the vice presidential debate and whatever they don't understand or don't know will be taken up by this man, john hodgeman, who has you know, knows all. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it.
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done, i don't know, 15 or 20 debates during his life time. an experienced debater. this is paul's first debate. i may be wrong. he may have done something in high school, i don't know. >> paul ryan answered romper's questions about the debate. >> how about the difference between your position on abortion and your running mate's? >> our position hasn't changed. >> what is it? >> i'm sure you'll find out in these debates. >> our position is very consistent. >> today in a radio interview, president obama made a few debate prediction of his own. >> the debate, i think it's fair to say, i was just too polite. governor romney put forward a whole bunch of stuff that either involved him running away from pogs that he had taken or doubling down on things like medicare vouchers that are going
to hurt him long term and i think it's fair to say that we will see a little more activity at the next one. biden, i think, will be terrific at the debate this week. i've got another debate on tuesday of next week. >> yeah. >> and by next week, i think a lot of the hand ringing will be complete because we're going to go ahead and win this things. >> joining me now is jonathan capehart and sam stein. jonathan capehart, the president is saying in his next debate there's going to be more activity. >> one can only hope. >> what's he thinking? what's he got in mind? >> i think what he's going to do is whenever mitt romney said something that is patently untrue or something he's never said before, acknowledged before, to push back and say, oh, wait a minute, governor romney, on this date you said
this. on this particular issue you said this, this, and this. and now you're saying something else. which one is it? who are you this week at the debate. >> sam stein, the playing down expectations game gets funnier every week. but did mitt romney go too far? can you with paul ryan play down expectations too low when you start to say and create the impression, he's so inexperienced, he's never had any debates. maybe had he a debate in high school. somewhere around there you're going too far? >> he could have gone farther, i guess. if he stays upright, i will be puzzling surprised. last week we were mocking chris christie for setting absurd expectations for mitt romney which he met. it's tough to see what works in expectation setting and what
don doesn't. the expectations for the subsequent debates are measurably low. i mean, obama can just show up, throw a few zingers out there and i think people will be generally happy on the progressive side of the aisle. >> let's listen to joe biden talking about his debate last week. >> all of the debates are tough but i'm looking forward to it, i really am. the thing about congressman ryan is he's been straightforward up to everything until now, all of the significant ink chchanges hs to make. we have a fundamentally different view of issues. >> the vice president has been studying up on ryan's real positions and is prepared to call him out oh on his actual positions. >> uh-huh. >> since there is possibly some variation between the romney campaign and the ryan campaign and the old paul. >> the key word in the clip that you just said was straightforward. he's been straightforward in the positions he has had.
and so if he stands up there and says that is he pro life, well then biden can go back and say, i'm sorry, so what you're saying is, you and governor romney -- it's daylight between you two on this issue because just yesterday he said that he was fine with roe versus wade. like which is it? who is the top of the ticket? who is going to be driving the bus if you win in november? >> let's listen to what president clinton said about medicare yesterday in las vegas. >> all of this medicare thing and they are still trying to say, what a mean old person president obama and the democrats are. they ripped off medicare. for $716 billion. really, we're in the same medicare savings. it's the only real difference between ryan and romney that i can figure and in this case i actually agree with congressman ryan and he had to scrap it and now attack obama for doing what
he did. >> sam stein, it seems to be so relaxing to be a former president as opposed to be a president prepping for a debate. the president did score some points on medicare in the last debate and i would expect that would be an area where joe died den wants to go this time? >> yeah. it's an interesting theory to choose paul ryan because they've had some several different plans now. they've gone from a conservative to moderate base. to the extent that biden can tar him or at least tie him to those earlier plans, that will be a success. and that was my past, i'm with the romney ticket now. this is what is at stake here. biden has to perform well because the expectations from the first debate have been lowers and because he needs to make up ground for obama. >> sam stein and jonathan capehart, thank you both. >> thanks, lawrence. coming up, john hodgman who really does know everything will
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about another republican religious extremist. tonight, the kind that shoots little girls in the head because those girls want to go to school. that's all. they just want an education. tomorrow is the united nations international day of the girl, which the u.n. says is about highlighting, celebrating, discussing, and advancing girl's lives across the globe. and tonight on the eve of the international day of the girl. this girl, one of the bravest girls in the world, a 14-year-old is lying near debt after being shot in the head and the neck on her school bus yesterday for nothing more than wanting an education for herself and other girls. religious extremists planned to
assassinate her on her school bus. the man who got on the bus and shot her and got away is, no doubt, very, very proud of himself tonight. his spokesman certainly is. yes, homicidal religious extremists have spokes menmen in pakistan. ehsanullah ehsan sent a letter to the media today defending the assassination attempt and his defense of the assassination attempt contains specific sigh takings from the koran. the spokesman said, whom so ever leads a campaign against islam and shariah is ordered to be killed by shariah. he has never lead a campaign against islam but religious
extremists see that differently. when she was 11 years old she began right writing an anonymous blog. when the pakistan was driven out of her ton, her identity was revealed and she won an award for her bravery, pakistan's youth peace prize. she lead a delegation of children's rights activists sponsored by unicef that made present takings to politicians. she talked about how the simple act of going to school could be terrifying. >> the world, the girls are going to school freely and there is no fear but in swat, when we go to school we are afraid of taliban. he will kill us and throw acid on our face and he can do anything. >> when she was 12 years old, 12 years old, she met with richard
holbrooke, president obama's special envoy to the region. >> how old are you? >> i am 12. >> 12 years old? >> yeah. i would address you all and ambassador, i would request if you can help us in our education, please help. >> according to the "new york times" latest report from pakistan across the country pakistanis reacted with outrage on the attack on malala but the taliban was are the to attack islam forbids for attacking women and girls this way. the taliban press to letter to the press stated, it is clear command of shariah that any female who by any means plays a role against mujahideen should be killed. the taliban say that they are
holy warriors defending islam without that status of holy warrior, they would have no justification for anything that they do. more temper rate muslims insist that the taliban are not holy warriors for islam but the taliban have illegitimately ceased that label for themselves and hide behind it for their aks. in the taliban's letter they justify trying to kill a female because the letter says, quote, we can see the incident in the koran of the killing of a wife by a blind companion of the prophet because she spoke insulting words about the prophet and the prophet praised this act. the taliban defended attempting to shoot and kill a child with another story in the koran. hazrat khizar while traveling
with the prophet musa killed a child. arguing about the reason for his killing, he said that the parents of this child are pious and in the future the child will cause a bad name for them. religious extremists all make the same mistake. they all fail to understand that all of the foundational holy books of major religions, all of them, have really, really crazy, dangerous stuff in them, stuff that was written by men, men who were not just fallible but men who were wrong, some of them claimed at times to be taking dictation from god, some of them didn't. the craziest stuff in the holy books is always the homicidal stuff. it's always the death penalties. the bible is full of death penalties for not observing the sab balth, for adultery, death penalties for things that not
one follower of the holy bible on the earth today would ever, ever dream of trying to enforce. there is not one follower of the holy bible left on earth who believes there should be a death penalty for not observing the sab bath. indeed, followers of the holy bible disagree on how the sabbath should be observed if at all. but tragically, for malala tonight, as she struggles for life in her hospital bed, islam has not reached the point in its worldwide maturation curve where all muslims can agree that there are a lot of things in the koran that should just be ignored. the noble religious warriors of taliban pakistan have vowed today through their spokesman to try to kill malala if she ever
gets out of that hospital bed. malala once had ambitions of working in that hospital she's in tonight. >> i want to get my education and i want to become a doctor. >> okay. relax. >> that was her proud father beside her, her brave, proud father was the head of the school for girls that she was attending. her father founded that school. as malala gained more information with politics her ambition changed. >> i have a new dream. so i thought that i must be a politician to solve this country. >> why did you change this
dream? >> because there are so many crisis in our country so i want to remove these crisis and to save my country. >> in one of pakistan's new newspaper today, an article titled "condition critical." >> she would have known that they were going to come for her one day yet she carried on despite the threats to herself and her family and this young life as so very special. that knowledge became reality when the gunman who stopped her vehicle on the way home from school verified her identity before opening fire, according to another girl who survived the attack. here are the last lines of that he had tore yell. she seeks neither fame nor fortune and carried on her life as normally as she could, except that she was not an ordinary person. she had stood against ruthless
murderers who would see every girls' school blown up. malala yousafzai is in critical condition today and so pakistan. we are infected with the cancer of extremism and unless it is cut out, we will slide ever further into the biestiality that this latest autrocity exemplifies. every father should feel malala's father pain. every boy and girl in the world who hears this story should know that they are hearing a story of a crime not just against malala but against humanity. if we can have one more victory over the taliban in pakistan, let the next victory be not another so-called successful
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there's nothing to be done. there is too much savagery in their blood line, constantly as they are leaving the opera, pawing at the window, begging for the balloons they shall likely spend on gambling sport and chee-tos. >> and joining me now is john hodgman of the daily show and author of "that is all." this is all of the world's knowledge. >> that is my book of final world knowledge. >> so everything that one would want to know or need to know in the world is in here? >> absolutely. >> that leads me to believe that a close reading of this book would allow me to predict what would happen in tomorrow night's vice presidential debate.
>> a close analysis, yes. you could read between the lines. >> and so save me that reading time. i'm a very lazy reader. what do you -- >> i'm glad i didn't come buy here to brief you personally. >> we are so far behind truth and fiction in this campaign. >> yes. >> mitt romney's only being rewarded for speaking, shall we say, half truths about his positions. >> and inelegantly. >> i think in the next presidential election you're going to see him wearing a big powdered wig and look like a prerevolutionary aristocrat. now the handcuffs are off. we know that paul ryan likes to elaborate on his running and climbing experience. >> yes, he does. >> i think now he can come in and say, i just did an iron man triathlon, i captured big foot and i have a big blue ox and i
think he would do fine. there is nothing we can say. and if you ever say it's not true, jack welch will call you a liar. >> if you watch the media coverage of the debate -- >> yes. >> -- which some people did. apparently millions. they noticed that it was more theater criticism than substance criticism. the media cares much more about style. if ryan can lie about anything, then he's safe. >> but you are describing my career, sir. >> yes. there you go. >> absolutely. you say something forcefully and with authority. >> yes. >> joe biden has a different problem, you see, because every time he talks it sounds as if he's standing in the kitchen at midnight making a sandwich screaming at the television. he's going to be more animated for sure but he has that sort of earthy midnight kitchen charm. >> what tuneups would you suggest to joe biden? >> he will only be punished for calling ryan out on his lies.
so i think he should actually bring a sandwich. i think he should actually stop sounding like he's drinking a beer in a summertime porch. i think he should bring a patio chair and eat a sandwich and talk off the cuff and be this dude that we like. >> now, is "the daily show" going to go into just complete sort of collapse after the election? it will kind of -- will it fall off a cliff of comedy opportunities? >> no, i think they are going to enjoy the romney presidency officially. >> is that an official prediction based on all of the world's knowledge? >> based on where things are going right now, perhaps. but the nice thing about -- whatever you think about romney, it will be an historic presence. he will be the first mormon president, obviously, and after his seven terms, however many he chooses to serve, he could be the first president to portray himself in his own double at the walt disney world's hal